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Catoni
28.01.2012 - 09:17

Paleoclimatologists Call Past Warm Periods "Optimums" Any AGW Alarmist Eco-socialists Know The Definition of The Word "Optimum" ? ? ?


Well ? ? ? Do you know the definition of the world
"Optimum" ? ?

Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to describe
warmer past climates ? ?

matt_sykes
28.01.2012 - 10:37
On Jan 28, 9:170am, Catoni <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
0 0Well ? ? ? 0 0Do you know the definition of the world
"Optimum" ? ?

0 Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to describe
warmer past climates ? ?

Indeed.

Of course people like Schroedinger deny that the holocene maximum
existed, so your question is answered.

Red Acer
28.01.2012 - 14:03
On 28/01/12 08:17, Catoni wrote:

Well ? ? ? Do you know the definition of the world
"Optimum" ? ?

Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to describe
warmer past climates ? ?

Because they are scientists and they use maths. I guess you've never
taken any basics calculus courses.

http://www.economics.utoronto.ca/osborne/MathTutorial/LONF.HTM

Catoni
28.01.2012 - 16:31
On Jan 28, 8:0320am, Red Acer <red...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
On 28/01/12 08:17, Catoni wrote:



> 20 20Well ? ? ? 20 20Do you know the definition of the =
world
> "Optimum" ? ?

> 20 Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to desc=
ribe
> warmer past climates ? ?

20Because they are scientists and they use maths. I guess you've neve=
r
taken any basics calculus courses.

http://www.economics.utoronto.ca/osborne/MathTutorial/LONF.HTM

Silly.. silly idiot.... paleoclimatologists don't use mathematical
terms to describe climate periods. The warmer periods are called
CLIMACTIC optimums... See that little word.. Climactic ? ?

Paleoclimatologists call them "Optimum" because they were the best
times for growth and life on this planet... much better than the
colder times.

But nice try to escape the truth that you wish to avoid...

The Free Online Dictionary: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/optimum


op27ti27mum (pt-mm)
n. pl. op27ti27ma (-m) or op27ti27mums
1. The point at which the condition, degree, or amount of something is
the most favorable.
2. Biology The most favorable condition for growth and reproduction.
adj.
Most favorable or advantageous; best.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-----
[Latin, neuter sing. of optimus, best; see op- in Indo-European
roots.]


Dictionary.com: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/optimum

optimum[op-tuh-muhm]
op27ti27mum202 202/B892pt99m99m/ Show =
Spelled [op-tuh-muhm] Show IPA noun,
plural -ma 202/-m99/ Show Spelled[-muh] Show IPA, -mums, adjec=
tive
noun
1. the best or most favorable point, degree, amount, etc., as of
temperature, light, and moisture for the growth or reproduction of an
organism.
2. the greatest degree or best result obtained or obtainable under
specific conditions.
adjective
3. most favorable or desirable; best: optimum conditions.
Origin:
187520380; < Latin: noun use of neuter of optimus best, suppletive
superlative of bonus good

Synonyms
3. ideal, perfect, optimal.

Dictionary.com Unabridged
Based on the Random House Dictionary, 29 Random House, Inc. 2012.



American Heritage Dictionary: http://www.answers.com/topic/optimum

American Heritage Dictionary:
op27ti27mum

n., pl., -ma (-m99), or -mums.
1.The point at which the condition, degree, or amount of something is
the most favorable.
2.Biology. The most favorable condition for growth and reproduction.
adj.
Most favorable or advantageous; best.

[Latin, neuter sing. of optimus, best.]

Roget's Thesaurus:
optimum

adjective

Surpassing all others in quality: best, optimal, superlative,
unsurpassed

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/optimum#ixzz1klbOw4k3


And last but not least... THE AMERICAN HERITAGE DICTIONARY of THE
ENGLISH LANGUAGE
http://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?qDOptimum

op27ti27mum (5FpE0Ft99-m99m)
Share: FBFn.pl. op27ti27ma (-m99) or op27ti27mums
1. The point at which the condition, degree, or amount of something is
the most favorable.
2. Biology The most favorable condition for growth and reproduction.
adj.
Most favorable or advantageous; best.


Catoni
28.01.2012 - 16:35
And last but not least... THE AMERICAN HERITAGE DICTIONARY of THE
ENGLISH LANGUAGE
20 20http://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?qDOptimum

op27ti27mum 20(5FpE0Ft99-m99m)
Share: FBFn.pl. op27ti27ma (-m99) or op27ti27mu=
ms
1. The point at which the condition, degree, or amount of something is
the most favorable.
2. Biology The most favorable condition for growth and reproduction.
adj.
Most favorable or advantageous; best.

I expect it won't be long before Unum,
columbiaaccidentinvestigation, the Dawlish or erschroedinger or
"AGWFacts" arrive to try to make optimum mean the opposite of what it
means.

Let's see how long it takes them.

Red Acer
28.01.2012 - 17:04
On 28/01/12 15:31, Catoni wrote:
On Jan 28, 8:03 am, Red Acer <red...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
On 28/01/12 08:17, Catoni wrote:



Well ? ? ? Do you know the definition of the world
"Optimum" ? ?

Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to describe
warmer past climates ? ?

Because they are scientists and they use maths. I guess you've never
taken any basics calculus courses.

http://www.economics.utoronto.ca/osborne/MathTutorial/LONF.HTM

Silly.. silly idiot.... paleoclimatologists don't use mathematical
terms to describe climate periods. The warmer periods are called
CLIMACTIC optimums... See that little word.. Climactic ? ?

Yes, I see climactic. You are getting a bit CLIMACTIC! aren't you. Did
you you mean climatic optimum






Earl Evleth
28.01.2012 - 17:10
On 28/01/12 9:17, in article
11b4681e-6512-42e2-a239-402e6b2e0e79@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, "Catoni"
<catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to describe
warmer past climates ? ?


It means peak periods to me. However, in general, optimization theory
deals with critical points on a hypersurface with the minima and maxima
are characterized by first derivatives which are all zero with respect to
all variables. The second derivatives defines maxima or minima.


Red Acer
28.01.2012 - 17:12
On 28/01/12 15:31, Catoni wrote:
On Jan 28, 8:03 am, Red Acer <red...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
On 28/01/12 08:17, Catoni wrote:



Well ? ? ? Do you know the definition of the world
"Optimum" ? ?

Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to describe
warmer past climates ? ?

Because they are scientists and they use maths. I guess you've never
taken any basics calculus courses.

http://www.economics.utoronto.ca/osborne/MathTutorial/LONF.HTM

Silly.. silly idiot.... paleoclimatologists don't use mathematical
terms to describe climate periods. The warmer periods are called
CLIMACTIC optimums... See that little word.. Climactic ? ?

Paleoclimatologists call them "Optimum" because they were the best
times for growth and life on this planet... much better than the
colder times.

Are you sure? Maybe we need to ask a paleoclimatologist ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene
"The evolution of the Eocene climate began with warming after the end of
the Palaeocene-Eocene Thermal *Maximum* (PETM) at 56 million years ago
to a *maximum* during the Eocene *Optimum* at around 49 million years ago."

Ubuntu Dictionary :-
"greatest degree, or largest amount possible under given circumstances"


"James"
28.01.2012 - 18:37
"Catoni" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:11b4681e-6512-42e2-a239-402e6b2e0e79@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com
Well ? ? ? Do you know the definition of the world
"Optimum" ? ?

Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to describe
warmer past climates ? ?

-Syn. ideal, perfect, optimal.



I recerntly asked what the global temperature should be. I never got an
answer from anyone.


"James"
28.01.2012 - 18:56
"James" <kingkongg@iglou.com> wrote in message
news:4f243430$0$23248$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com
"Catoni" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:11b4681e-6512-42e2-a239-402e6b2e0e79@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com
Well ? ? ? Do you know the definition of the world
"Optimum" ? ?

Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to describe
warmer past climates ? ?

-Syn. ideal, perfect, optimal.



I recerntly asked what the global temperature should be. I never got
an answer from anyone.

A reprint fom yesterday:
Al Gore once said that the earth was sick - "it has a fever". Doesn't
such a statement presuppose that we know what the ideal temperature of
the earth should be. Well, what is it?


Red Acer
28.01.2012 - 19:55
On 28/01/12 17:37, James wrote:
"Catoni" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:11b4681e-6512-42e2-a239-402e6b2e0e79@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com
Well ? ? ? Do you know the definition of the world
"Optimum" ? ?

Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to describe
warmer past climates ? ?

-Syn. ideal, perfect, optimal.



I recerntly asked what the global temperature should be. I never got an
answer from anyone.



I'd like the global temp. to be such that the winter in England is only
1 month long instead of 4. Can you fix it ?

"erschroedinger
28.01.2012 - 20:14
On Jan 28, 11:100am, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
On 28/01/12 9:17, in article
11b4681e-6512-42e2-a239-402e6b2e0...@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, "Caton=
i"

<caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to describe
> warmer past climates ? ?

It means peak periods to me. 0However, in general, optimization theory
deals with critical points on a hypersurface with the minima and maxima
are characterized by first derivatives which are all zero with respect to
all variables. The second derivatives defines maxima or minima.

When you optimize a system, you might be trying to find the maximum or
the minimum. Maximum yield of product for example, or minimum amount
of impurity.

"James"
29.01.2012 - 04:00
"Red Acer" <redRed@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:jg1gah$t0h$1@speranza.aioe.org
On 28/01/12 17:37, James wrote:
"Catoni" <catoni52@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:11b4681e-6512-42e2-a239-402e6b2e0e79@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com
Well ? ? ? Do you know the definition of the world
"Optimum" ? ?

Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to
describe warmer past climates ? ?

-Syn. ideal, perfect, optimal.



I recerntly asked what the global temperature should be. I never got
an answer from anyone.



I'd like the global temp. to be such that the winter in England is
only 1 month long instead of 4. Can you fix it ?

Call Michael Mann. He'll draw a graph for you that will show it's
already that way.


Catoni
29.01.2012 - 06:43
On Jan 28, 11:040am, Red Acer <red...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
On 28/01/12 15:31, Catoni wrote:





> On Jan 28, 8:03 am, Red Acer <red...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 28/01/12 08:17, Catoni wrote:

>>> 0 0Well ? ? ? 0 0Do you know the definition of the world
>>> "Optimum" ? ?

>>> 0 Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to descr=
ibe
>>> warmer past climates ? ?

>> 0Because they are scientists and they use maths. I guess you've neve=
r
>> taken any basics calculus courses.

>>http://www.economics.utoronto.ca/osborne/MathTutorial/LONF.HTM

> Silly.. silly idiot.... paleoclimatologists don't use mathematical
> terms to describe climate periods. 0The warmer periods are called
> CLIMACTIC 0optimums... See that little word.. Climactic ? ?

Yes, I see climactic. You are getting a bit CLIMACTIC! aren't you. Did
you you mean climatic optimum- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh... please excuse me. Tired after putting in three sixteeen hour
days in a row With little sleep.

You never make any typing or grammer or spelling mistakes do
you? ? ?


Catoni
29.01.2012 - 06:57
On Jan 28, 2:1420pm, "erschroedin...@gmail.com"
<erschroedin...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:1020am, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> On 28/01/12 9:17, in article
> 11b4681e-6512-42e2-a239-402e6b2e0...@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, "Cat=
oni"

> <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > Why do you think Paleoclimatologists would use that word to describe
> > warmer past climates ? ?

> It means peak periods to me. 20However, in general, optimization th=
eory
> deals with critical points on a hypersurface with the minima and maxima
> are characterized by first derivatives which are all zero with respect =
to
> all variables. The second derivatives defines maxima or minima.

When you optimize a system, you might be trying to find the maximum or
the minimum. 20Maximum yield of product for example, or minimum amoun=
t
of impurity.

Let me repeat, since you seem to have forgotten already.

THE AMERICAN HERITAGE DICTIONARY of THE
ENGLISH LANGUAGE
http://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?qDOptimum


op27ti27mum (5FpE0Ft99-m99m)
Share: FBFn.pl. op27ti27ma (-m99) or op27ti27mums
1. The point at which the condition, degree, or amount of something
is
the most favorable.
2. Biology The most favorable condition for growth and reproduction.
adj.
Most favorable or advantageous; best.



The Free Online Dictionary: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/optimum

op27ti27mum (pt-mm)
n. pl. op27ti27ma (-m) or op27ti27mums
1. The point at which the condition, degree, or amount of something
is
the most favorable.
2. Biology The most favorable condition for growth and reproduction.
adj.
Most favorable or advantageous; best.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
2D-----
[Latin, neuter sing. of optimus, best; see op- in Indo-European
roots.]


The Free Online Dictionary: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/optimum

op27ti27mum (pt-mm)
n. pl. op27ti27ma (-m) or op27ti27mums
1. The point at which the condition, degree, or amount of something
is
the most favorable.
2. Biology The most favorable condition for growth and reproduction.
adj.
Most favorable or advantageous; best.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
2D-----
[Latin, neuter sing. of optimus, best; see op- in Indo-European
roots.]


Please feel free to check all the major dictionaries that you are
familar with.

Then come back and tell us that Optimum actually means something
else entirely.

Knowing how AGWFacts likes to turn things insice out and upside down
I'm not surprised that you would try to make Optimum mean something
other than what dictionaries say it means.



Here's another one from another respected dictionary that I missed
before... Collin's Dictionary.

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/optimum

optimum (B892pt9Am99m)
Definitions
noun

1.a condition, degree, amount or compromise that produces the best
possible result
adjective

2.most favourable or advantageous; best 272 optimum conditions

Word Origin
C19: from Latin: the best (thing), from optimus best; see optimism

Synonyms
View thesaurus entry
D ideal, best, highest, finest, choicest, perfect, supreme, peak,
outstanding, first-class, foremost, first-rate, flawless, superlative,
pre-eminent, most excellent A1 or A-one most favourable or
advantageous


Not tell us again how Optimum does not mean what it is supposed
to mean.



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