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wessie
21.01.2012 - 19:45

paging the photographers

this may amuse those who have been challenged by jobsworths when taking
pictures of buses & other objects in public places

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcy8hBfEdds

steve auvache
21.01.2012 - 19:58
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:45:57 +0000 (UTC), wessie <putmynamehere@tesco.net>
wrote:

this may amuse those who have been challenged by jobsworths when taking
pictures of buses & other objects in public places

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcy8hBfEdds

I can't be arsed to follow the discussion to find out what Golden Wonder
think of all this but they ought to be looking very closely at the quality
of training given to those who speak in their name and have the fuck sued
out of them and the whole episode featured on the 6 o'clock news for a
week if they fail.


--

steve auvache

boots
21.01.2012 - 20:03
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:45:57 +0000 (UTC) in uk.rec.motorcycles, wessie
says:

this may amuse those who have been challenged by jobsworths when taking
pictures of buses & other objects in public places

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcy8hBfEdds


Full story
http://www.visitscunthorpe.com/ScunthorpeNews/headline/Golden-Wonder-Security

--
Ian
"Bother!" said Pooh as he developed crabs



Paul Corfield
21.01.2012 - 20:27
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:45:57 +0000 (UTC), wessie
<putmynamehere@tesco.net> wrote:

this may amuse those who have been challenged by jobsworths when taking
pictures of buses & other objects in public places

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcy8hBfEdds

Not very amusing seeing thick people get ever more out of their depth
because they haven't been trained or briefed on the law or how to do
their job. Still it's broadly indicative of the crap you have to put
up with from security people and PCSOs if you have the cheek to carry
a SLR camera around with you.

I trust someone has told Mrs Thicko that only a court can require the
deletion of photos. A policeman certainly has no right to require that
to be done and they'd be in deep shit if they instructed a member of
the public to do it. Let's hope Golden Wonder have done something
about their security staff deal with members of the public. I dread to
think how that pair of guards would deal with a real security threat
or emergency given they got so wound up that gates were slammed and
bits of barrier detached.
--
Paul C

Simon Wilson
21.01.2012 - 20:46
On 21/01/2012 18:45, wessie wrote:
this may amuse those who have been challenged by jobsworths when taking
pictures of buses& other objects in public places

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcy8hBfEdds

Heh. I guess sopa could shut his site down for copying the London
underground logo though.

--
/Simon



Thomas
21.01.2012 - 22:00
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:45:57 -0800, wessie <putmynamehere@tesco.net> wrote:

this may amuse those who have been challenged by jobsworths when taking
pictures of buses & other objects in public places

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcy8hBfEdds

What I want to know is, why on earth would it be illegal to take a photo
of a building? (Excluding national security reasons, of course.)

"Krusty"
21.01.2012 - 22:05
Thomas wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:45:57 -0800, wessie <putmynamehere@tesco.net>
wrote:

> this may amuse those who have been challenged by jobsworths when
> taking pictures of buses & other objects in public places
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcy8hBfEdds

What I want to know is, why on earth would it be illegal to take a
photo of a building? (Excluding national security reasons, of
course.)

It might be terrorists trying to work out the best point to hit with
their plane.

--
Krusty

Raptor 1000 MV 750 Senna Fantic Hiro 250

steve auvache
21.01.2012 - 22:30
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:00:17 -0800, Thomas <keensurf@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:45:57 -0800, wessie <putmynamehere@tesco.net> wrote:

this may amuse those who have been challenged by jobsworths when taking
pictures of buses & other objects in public places

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcy8hBfEdds

What I want to know is, why on earth would it be illegal to take a photo
of a building? (Excluding national security reasons, of course.)

In general it isn't. Or rather none of the legislation we have was
drafted in such a way as to make that the intent but poor draughtsmanship
corrupt politicians and greedy businessmen mean we have a few badly worded
laws which others seek to pervert even more for their own, usually
pecuniary, gains.

--

steve auvache

Paul Corfield
21.01.2012 - 22:34
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:00:17 -0800, Thomas <keensurf@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:45:57 -0800, wessie <putmynamehere@tesco.net> wrote:

this may amuse those who have been challenged by jobsworths when taking
pictures of buses & other objects in public places

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcy8hBfEdds

What I want to know is, why on earth would it be illegal to take a photo
of a building? (Excluding national security reasons, of course.)

Everyone with a real camera - as opposed to having one on a mobile
phone - is an evil terrorist seeking to blow up every building within
range of their camera's lens.

The other variant is that anyone, other than the child's parents, who
points a camera at a child or anywhere within half a mile of a school
is peadophile who will either run off and wank over their photos or
else drool over them while contemplating how to kidnap the child.

Surely you know that ??!!?!! Don't you read the Sun, Daily Express
or the Daily Mail??
--
Paul C

boots
21.01.2012 - 23:08
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:34:16 +0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Paul
Corfield says:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:00:17 -0800, Thomas <keensurf@gmail.com> wrote:

What I want to know is, why on earth would it be illegal to take a photo
of a building? (Excluding national security reasons, of course.)

Everyone with a real camera - as opposed to having one on a mobile
phone - is an evil terrorist seeking to blow up every building within
range of their camera's lens.

The other variant is that anyone, other than the child's parents, who
points a camera at a child or anywhere within half a mile of a school
is peadophile who will either run off and wank over their photos or
else drool over them while contemplating how to kidnap the child.

Surely you know that ??!!?!! Don't you read the Sun, Daily Express
or the Daily Mail??

I imagine one of the advantages of living in the US is not being able
to buy that tripe. I am sure they have their own equally despicable
publications.

--
Ian
"Bother!" said Pooh as he deleted his source code


wessie
21.01.2012 - 23:17
boots <boots@despammed.com> wrote in
news:b6f6cbfd822c9765e75c129a47af3e52@blakeley.plus.com:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:34:16 +0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Paul
Corfield says:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:00:17 -0800, Thomas <keensurf@gmail.com> wrote:

What I want to know is, why on earth would it be illegal to take a
photo of a building? (Excluding national security reasons, of
course.)

Everyone with a real camera - as opposed to having one on a mobile
phone - is an evil terrorist seeking to blow up every building within
range of their camera's lens.

The other variant is that anyone, other than the child's parents, who
points a camera at a child or anywhere within half a mile of a school
is peadophile who will either run off and wank over their photos or
else drool over them while contemplating how to kidnap the child.

Surely you know that ??!!?!! Don't you read the Sun, Daily Express
or the Daily Mail??

I imagine one of the advantages of living in the US is not being able
to buy that tripe. I am sure they have their own equally despicable
publications.


Fox News (TV) & NY Post (print) are Murdoch organs which would fit your
category

Cab
21.01.2012 - 23:22
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:45:57 +0000 (UTC), wessie wibbled:
this may amuse those who have been challenged by jobsworths when taking
pictures of buses & other objects in public places

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcy8hBfEdds

Not the same in France. Very much different in fact. You can be banged
up for a year (IIRC) and fined if you take a picture of a person and use
that picture without their consent. That includes using that picture in
a private place. This can be got around by said person objecting at the
time the photo was taken, otherwise consent is presumed.

For buildings, I believe it's okay if it's for private use, but you need
permission from the owner if it's for commercial use.

It's all a crock of shite anyway. I remember years ago when the register
showed an article about the French version of google maps whereby
they'd blacked out all military installations [1]. Google maps hadn't.

[1] Against the law, see.
--
Cab :^) - Cogito sumere potum alterum
Z1000ABS : http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm (just for WUN)
The ALL NEW ukrm website : http://www.ukrm.info
email addy : ukrm_dot_cab_at_rosbif_dot_org

Veggie Dave
22.01.2012 - 00:42
On 21/01/2012 22:22, Cab wrote:
You can be banged
up for a year (IIRC) and fined if you take a picture of a person and use
that picture without their consent. That includes using that picture in
a private place. This can be got around by said person objecting at the
time the photo was taken, otherwise consent is presumed.

For buildings, I believe it's okay if it's for private use, but you need
permission from the owner if it's for commercial use.

Basically no different to the UK really. It's not who or what you shoot
that's illegal, it's what you do with the image that defines its legal
status.

--
Veggie Dave
www.davegreenplumbing.co.uk
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to
claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine

frag
22.01.2012 - 01:32
wessie burbled...

this may amuse those who have been challenged by jobsworths when taking
pictures of buses & other objects in public places

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcy8hBfEdds

Hah, I feel very very very slightly for the female "security guard" who
I think is just ill educated and trying to do what she perceives as her
job. (very badly)

Funny though, and the usual "you're taking photos of 'xyz' in public so
you must be a pervert" was trotted out.

--
frag

Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.

frag
22.01.2012 - 01:43
Paul Corfield burbled...

I trust someone has told Mrs Thicko that only a court can require the
deletion of photos. A policeman certainly has no right to require that
to be done and they'd be in deep shit if they instructed a member of
the public to do it.

What makes you think they'd be in any trouble at all?

I have heard that it has happened numerous times, especially before the
clarification about how the law (anti terrorism) should be used from the
head of police person.

Plus the fact that a lot of the "police" are youngsters who appear to
have little common sense, and just seem to want to "big it up for their
mates" with their authority over members of the public.


--
frag

Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.



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