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Kjell
20.09.2010 - 21:31

Exercise: Election in Sweden, 19 Sept., 2010 (horary)

Yesterday morning, before the election opened, I thought about taking
a chance to do a horary about the outcome of the election. I usually
do not do horary charts, except possibly for personal guidance to get
a sense of direction, but have a few books so I could get a start with
one of them.

However, the day went by and I never had the time to look at the
chart, so now I offer it here to see if anyone in the group is
interested.

The question was posed at 6.18 (UT 4.18), in Stockholm, Sweden. I live
in the vicinity of the old Observatory, which means that that a chart
for "Stockholm" will be correct, needing no adjustment for precision.
(Unless you believe a few hundred meters off target do things to the
Ascendant, but I doubt that. Also, I am practically on the north/south-
meridian of it, so I really don't think the Ascendant would be
affected.) FWIW, though unlikely to play into this as ours is a
monarchy purely constitutional, I still happened to note that the Part
of Fortune is partile the Sun of the King, less than half a degree
off. The King being the nominal ruler of the country this MAY come
into play, but I cannot for my life imagine in what way that would, or
even could, happen.

Anyhow, the chart gives a rising Sun, a sextile Mercury/Pluto that is
exact and a just as exact Jupiter/Uranus-conjunction (both retrograde)
opposing the Sun, and the Ascendant is at 25th degree. I believe it is
radical, has something to say and that it also fits what has been
reported.

The results as of today show that the sitting government takes a
"minor majority", but that an extreme right-wing party of Nazi
ancestry gains a foothold in the Parliament. Actually, the sitting
government (conservative/liberal) possibly even has an actual majority
of all the counted votes, but the voting system is not 100%
"mathematical" (that is, proportional in practice) so that still does
not translate into a majority of seats in the Parliament.

The final results are expected Wednesday, when votes from abroad etc
have been counted, but as of now the Prime Minister speaks of trying
to get one of the parties to the left (the Green) to join the con-lib
coalition. What will happen is at the moment anyone’s guess.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/09/20/world/AP-EU-Sweden-Election.html?_r&ref=global-home

Though the extreme right-wing party in polls has showed it could
possibly enter Parliament, it would not be an overstatement to say
that great parts of the public is at a loss, if not in outright
mourning, and media as well ("black day for Sweden"). Huge spontaneous
demonstrations against racism have been held in several Swedish cities
today and most national newspapers yesterday appealed to voters not to
give their vote to racism. Unlike other, or at least most other,
European parties of similar kind, this one actually has direct Nazi
roots. For instance, the current leader for years had to urge party
members not to wear Nazi uniforms at party meetings! (Only one
example, there are many many others, I chose this because it is
telling, but very much more could be said of this party.)

If you have the time and inclination, please have a look at the chart.
Final votes are counted Wednesday, and the sitting PM has until the
fifth (or sixth) of October to negotiate a new government, and in
principle there could also be a stall, forcing a new election, though
most hope that will not happen.


Kjell
22.09.2010 - 10:05
I sort of promised an update by today, but the votes are still being
counted. According to some estimates, it may be a question of less
than 300 votes that will determine the final outcome of the election,
and final votes and control of previous countings are being done with
an answer being expected no later than tomorrow, Thursday.

It certainly rhymes with the close opposition between the Virgo Sun
and the Jupiter-Uranus conjunction. Mercury being in Virgo, I guess
the two sides are of fairly equal strength.

In any case, it will be interesting to check the chart against the
facts post factum! :-)


On Sep 20, 9:31 pm, Kjell <kjelle...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yesterday morning, before the election opened, I thought about taking
a chance to do a horary about the outcome of the election. I usually
do not do horary charts, except possibly for personal guidance to get
a sense of direction, but have a few books so I could get a start with
one of them.

However, the day went by and I never had the time to look at the
chart, so now I offer it here to see if anyone in the group is
interested.

The question was posed at 6.18 (UT 4.18), in Stockholm, Sweden. I live
in the vicinity of the old Observatory, which means that that a chart
for "Stockholm" will be correct, needing no adjustment for precision.
(Unless you believe a few hundred meters off target do things to the
Ascendant, but I doubt that. Also, I am practically on the north/south-
meridian of it, so I really don't think the Ascendant would be
affected.) FWIW, though unlikely to play into this as ours is a
monarchy purely constitutional, I still happened to note that the Part
of Fortune is partile the Sun of the King, less than half a degree
off. The King being the nominal ruler of the country this MAY come
into play, but I cannot for my life imagine in what way that would, or
even could, happen.

Anyhow, the chart gives a rising Sun, a sextile Mercury/Pluto that is
exact and a just as exact Jupiter/Uranus-conjunction (both retrograde)
opposing the Sun, and the Ascendant is at 25th degree. I believe it is
radical, has something to say and that it also fits what has been
reported.

The results as of today show that the sitting government takes a
"minor majority", but that an extreme right-wing party of Nazi
ancestry gains a foothold in the Parliament. Actually, the sitting
government (conservative/liberal) possibly even has an actual majority
of all the counted votes, but the voting system is not 100%
"mathematical" (that is, proportional in practice) so that still does
not translate into a majority of seats in the Parliament.

The final results are expected Wednesday, when votes from abroad etc
have been counted, but as of now the Prime Minister speaks of trying
to get one of the parties to the left (the Green) to join the con-lib
coalition. What will happen is at the moment anyone’s guess.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/09/20/world/AP-EU-Sweden-Electio...

Though the extreme right-wing party in polls has showed it could
possibly enter Parliament, it would not be an overstatement to say
that great parts of the public is at a loss, if not in outright
mourning, and media as well ("black day for Sweden"). Huge spontaneous
demonstrations against racism have been held in several Swedish cities
today and most national newspapers yesterday appealed to voters not to
give their vote to racism. Unlike other, or at least most other,
European parties of similar kind, this one actually has direct Nazi
roots. For instance, the current leader for years had to urge party
members not to wear Nazi uniforms at party meetings! (Only one
example, there are many many others, I chose this because it is
telling, but very much more could be said of this party.)

If you have the time and inclination, please have a look at the chart.
Final votes are counted Wednesday, and the sitting PM has until the
fifth (or sixth) of October to negotiate a new government, and in
principle there could also be a stall, forcing a new election, though
most hope that will not happen.


Kjell
22.09.2010 - 16:58
If my chart is radical, which I believe it is, it must contain the
very astrological counterpart to a cliffhanger. Of the 298 votes in
the balance, 42 have been counted and the balance is now moving
towards the absolute middle. It seems like 256 votes, in two
districts, will be decisive whether the Parliament is hung or not.

Perhaps this is of no interest to anyone outside of Sweden, but I must
say that I myself—despite being sorry about the racist party entering
the Parliament—start to find this very exciting.



On Sep 22, 10:05 am, Kjell <kjelle...@gmail.com> wrote:
I sort of promised an update by today, but the votes are still being
counted. According to some estimates, it may be a question of less
than 300 votes that will determine the final outcome of the election,
and final votes and control of previous countings are being done with
an answer being expected no later than tomorrow, Thursday.

It certainly rhymes with the close opposition between the Virgo Sun
and the Jupiter-Uranus conjunction. Mercury being in Virgo, I guess
the two sides are of fairly equal strength.

In any case, it will be interesting to check the chart against the
facts post factum! :-)

On Sep 20, 9:31 pm, Kjell <kjelle...@gmail.com> wrote:



> Yesterday morning, before the election opened, I thought about taking
> a chance to do a horary about the outcome of the election. I usually
> do not do horary charts, except possibly for personal guidance to get
> a sense of direction, but have a few books so I could get a start with
> one of them.

> However, the day went by and I never had the time to look at the
> chart, so now I offer it here to see if anyone in the group is
> interested.

> The question was posed at 6.18 (UT 4.18), in Stockholm, Sweden. I live
> in the vicinity of the old Observatory, which means that that a chart
> for "Stockholm" will be correct, needing no adjustment for precision.
> (Unless you believe a few hundred meters off target do things to the
> Ascendant, but I doubt that. Also, I am practically on the north/south-
> meridian of it, so I really don't think the Ascendant would be
> affected.) FWIW, though unlikely to play into this as ours is a
> monarchy purely constitutional, I still happened to note that the Part
> of Fortune is partile the Sun of the King, less than half a degree
> off. The King being the nominal ruler of the country this MAY come
> into play, but I cannot for my life imagine in what way that would, or
> even could, happen.

> Anyhow, the chart gives a rising Sun, a sextile Mercury/Pluto that is
> exact and a just as exact Jupiter/Uranus-conjunction (both retrograde)
> opposing the Sun, and the Ascendant is at 25th degree. I believe it is
> radical, has something to say and that it also fits what has been
> reported.

> The results as of today show that the sitting government takes a
> "minor majority", but that an extreme right-wing party of Nazi
> ancestry gains a foothold in the Parliament. Actually, the sitting
> government (conservative/liberal) possibly even has an actual majority
> of all the counted votes, but the voting system is not 100%
> "mathematical" (that is, proportional in practice) so that still does
> not translate into a majority of seats in the Parliament.

> The final results are expected Wednesday, when votes from abroad etc
> have been counted, but as of now the Prime Minister speaks of trying
> to get one of the parties to the left (the Green) to join the con-lib
> coalition. What will happen is at the moment anyone’s guess.

>http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/09/20/world/AP-EU-Sweden-Electio...

> Though the extreme right-wing party in polls has showed it could
> possibly enter Parliament, it would not be an overstatement to say
> that great parts of the public is at a loss, if not in outright
> mourning, and media as well ("black day for Sweden"). Huge spontaneous
> demonstrations against racism have been held in several Swedish cities
> today and most national newspapers yesterday appealed to voters not to
> give their vote to racism. Unlike other, or at least most other,
> European parties of similar kind, this one actually has direct Nazi
> roots. For instance, the current leader for years had to urge party
> members not to wear Nazi uniforms at party meetings! (Only one
> example, there are many many others, I chose this because it is
> telling, but very much more could be said of this party.)

> If you have the time and inclination, please have a look at the chart.
> Final votes are counted Wednesday, and the sitting PM has until the
> fifth (or sixth) of October to negotiate a new government, and in
> principle there could also be a stall, forcing a new election, though
> most hope that will not happen.



Kjell
22.09.2010 - 17:15
Now it seems like yet another district changed, and that we are less
than 200 votes from "unhanging" the Parliament.

I guess I had better start to look at the chart again before too late,
to see if I can find anything before the election is final. I will at
least have as much chance of pinpointing the right decision as if I
flipped a coin! :-)

I really never suspected the situation could develop in this way. To
most Swedes it is news that this was even theoretically possible.




On Sep 22, 4:58 pm, Kjell <kjelle...@gmail.com> wrote:
If my chart is radical, which I believe it is, it must contain the
very astrological counterpart to a cliffhanger. Of the 298 votes in
the balance, 42 have been counted and the balance is now moving
towards the absolute middle. It seems like 256 votes, in two
districts, will be decisive whether the Parliament is hung or not.

Perhaps this is of no interest to anyone outside of Sweden, but I must
say that I myself—despite being sorry about the racist party entering
the Parliament—start to find this very exciting.

On Sep 22, 10:05 am, Kjell <kjelle...@gmail.com> wrote:



> I sort of promised an update by today, but the votes are still being
> counted. According to some estimates, it may be a question of less
> than 300 votes that will determine the final outcome of the election,
> and final votes and control of previous countings are being done with
> an answer being expected no later than tomorrow, Thursday.

> It certainly rhymes with the close opposition between the Virgo Sun
> and the Jupiter-Uranus conjunction. Mercury being in Virgo, I guess
> the two sides are of fairly equal strength.

> In any case, it will be interesting to check the chart against the
> facts post factum! :-)

> On Sep 20, 9:31 pm, Kjell <kjelle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Yesterday morning, before the election opened, I thought about taking
> > a chance to do a horary about the outcome of the election. I usually
> > do not do horary charts, except possibly for personal guidance to get
> > a sense of direction, but have a few books so I could get a start with
> > one of them.

> > However, the day went by and I never had the time to look at the
> > chart, so now I offer it here to see if anyone in the group is
> > interested.

> > The question was posed at 6.18 (UT 4.18), in Stockholm, Sweden. I live
> > in the vicinity of the old Observatory, which means that that a chart
> > for "Stockholm" will be correct, needing no adjustment for precision.
> > (Unless you believe a few hundred meters off target do things to the
> > Ascendant, but I doubt that. Also, I am practically on the north/south-
> > meridian of it, so I really don't think the Ascendant would be
> > affected.) FWIW, though unlikely to play into this as ours is a
> > monarchy purely constitutional, I still happened to note that the Part
> > of Fortune is partile the Sun of the King, less than half a degree
> > off. The King being the nominal ruler of the country this MAY come
> > into play, but I cannot for my life imagine in what way that would, or
> > even could, happen.

> > Anyhow, the chart gives a rising Sun, a sextile Mercury/Pluto that is
> > exact and a just as exact Jupiter/Uranus-conjunction (both retrograde)
> > opposing the Sun, and the Ascendant is at 25th degree. I believe it is
> > radical, has something to say and that it also fits what has been
> > reported.

> > The results as of today show that the sitting government takes a
> > "minor majority", but that an extreme right-wing party of Nazi
> > ancestry gains a foothold in the Parliament. Actually, the sitting
> > government (conservative/liberal) possibly even has an actual majority
> > of all the counted votes, but the voting system is not 100%
> > "mathematical" (that is, proportional in practice) so that still does
> > not translate into a majority of seats in the Parliament.

> > The final results are expected Wednesday, when votes from abroad etc
> > have been counted, but as of now the Prime Minister speaks of trying
> > to get one of the parties to the left (the Green) to join the con-lib
> > coalition. What will happen is at the moment anyone’s guess.

> >http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/09/20/world/AP-EU-Sweden-Electio...

> > Though the extreme right-wing party in polls has showed it could
> > possibly enter Parliament, it would not be an overstatement to say
> > that great parts of the public is at a loss, if not in outright
> > mourning, and media as well ("black day for Sweden"). Huge spontaneous
> > demonstrations against racism have been held in several Swedish cities
> > today and most national newspapers yesterday appealed to voters not to
> > give their vote to racism. Unlike other, or at least most other,
> > European parties of similar kind, this one actually has direct Nazi
> > roots. For instance, the current leader for years had to urge party
> > members not to wear Nazi uniforms at party meetings! (Only one
> > example, there are many many others, I chose this because it is
> > telling, but very much more could be said of this party.)

> > If you have the time and inclination, please have a look at the chart.
> > Final votes are counted Wednesday, and the sitting PM has until the
> > fifth (or sixth) of October to negotiate a new government, and in
> > principle there could also be a stall, forcing a new election, though
> > most hope that will not happen.


Kjell
24.09.2010 - 10:52
I have come to the conclusion that my chart was not radical. Neptune
is not a classical planet, and so the Moon must be seen as VOC. The
reason may be that I put the wrong question (and I see now I did not
include it in the first post, sorry!) was that I asked:

"What will be the outcome of the election today?"

This may sound OK, but the problem is that I expected an outcome
Sunday so that is what the question means. I should have asked:

"What will be the outcome of today's election [whenever the outcome is
final]?"

As the results were not final Sunday, the chart was not radical.
Anyhow, as I have felt many other times, a chart may indicate it is
not radical, which may be because—like in this case—the question is
the wrong one, but it may still capture the essence of what the
question is about.

To finish off the report of the results of the election, at the moment
is sees like the sitting government will form a minority government.
The results from Sunday more or less stood the last few days, only
moving a bit more towards the absolute middle, as reported. However,
in one of the districts in the balance, treatment of votes have been
irregular and may lead to that district having to vote again, which
may change the entire political landscape.

That is, right now it is unclear whether these are the final results
or not, and it will remain unclear for probably at least a couple of
months.

And, yes, some figures. It seems like it was 19 votes in one district
and 7 in another that was in the balance when all the counting was
done. A new election in one of this districts would be extremely
interesting, and if it happens I certainly will check back with this
unradical chart, after all, to see if I still find it descriptive.




On Sep 22, 5:15 pm, Kjell <kjelle...@gmail.com> wrote:
Now it seems like yet another district changed, and that we are less
than 200 votes from "unhanging" the Parliament.

I guess I had better start to look at the chart again before too late,
to see if I can find anything before the election is final. I will at
least have as much chance of pinpointing the right decision as if I
flipped a coin! :-)

I really never suspected the situation could develop in this way. To
most Swedes it is news that this was even theoretically possible.

On Sep 22, 4:58 pm, Kjell <kjelle...@gmail.com> wrote:



> If my chart is radical, which I believe it is, it must contain the
> very astrological counterpart to a cliffhanger. Of the 298 votes in
> the balance, 42 have been counted and the balance is now moving
> towards the absolute middle. It seems like 256 votes, in two
> districts, will be decisive whether the Parliament is hung or not.

> Perhaps this is of no interest to anyone outside of Sweden, but I must
> say that I myself—despite being sorry about the racist party entering
> the Parliament—start to find this very exciting.

> On Sep 22, 10:05 am, Kjell <kjelle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I sort of promised an update by today, but the votes are still being
> > counted. According to some estimates, it may be a question of less
> > than 300 votes that will determine the final outcome of the election,
> > and final votes and control of previous countings are being done with
> > an answer being expected no later than tomorrow, Thursday.

> > It certainly rhymes with the close opposition between the Virgo Sun
> > and the Jupiter-Uranus conjunction. Mercury being in Virgo, I guess
> > the two sides are of fairly equal strength.

> > In any case, it will be interesting to check the chart against the
> > facts post factum! :-)

> > On Sep 20, 9:31 pm, Kjell <kjelle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Yesterday morning, before the election opened, I thought about taking
> > > a chance to do a horary about the outcome of the election. I usually
> > > do not do horary charts, except possibly for personal guidance to get
> > > a sense of direction, but have a few books so I could get a start with
> > > one of them.

> > > However, the day went by and I never had the time to look at the
> > > chart, so now I offer it here to see if anyone in the group is
> > > interested.

> > > The question was posed at 6.18 (UT 4.18), in Stockholm, Sweden. I live
> > > in the vicinity of the old Observatory, which means that that a chart
> > > for "Stockholm" will be correct, needing no adjustment for precision.
> > > (Unless you believe a few hundred meters off target do things to the
> > > Ascendant, but I doubt that. Also, I am practically on the north/south-
> > > meridian of it, so I really don't think the Ascendant would be
> > > affected.) FWIW, though unlikely to play into this as ours is a
> > > monarchy purely constitutional, I still happened to note that the Part
> > > of Fortune is partile the Sun of the King, less than half a degree
> > > off. The King being the nominal ruler of the country this MAY come
> > > into play, but I cannot for my life imagine in what way that would, or
> > > even could, happen.

> > > Anyhow, the chart gives a rising Sun, a sextile Mercury/Pluto that is
> > > exact and a just as exact Jupiter/Uranus-conjunction (both retrograde)
> > > opposing the Sun, and the Ascendant is at 25th degree. I believe it is
> > > radical, has something to say and that it also fits what has been
> > > reported.

> > > The results as of today show that the sitting government takes a
> > > "minor majority", but that an extreme right-wing party of Nazi
> > > ancestry gains a foothold in the Parliament. Actually, the sitting
> > > government (conservative/liberal) possibly even has an actual majority
> > > of all the counted votes, but the voting system is not 100%
> > > "mathematical" (that is, proportional in practice) so that still does
> > > not translate into a majority of seats in the Parliament.

> > > The final results are expected Wednesday, when votes from abroad etc
> > > have been counted, but as of now the Prime Minister speaks of trying
> > > to get one of the parties to the left (the Green) to join the con-lib
> > > coalition. What will happen is at the moment anyone’s guess.

> > >http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/09/20/world/AP-EU-Sweden-Electio...

> > > Though the extreme right-wing party in polls has showed it could
> > > possibly enter Parliament, it would not be an overstatement to say
> > > that great parts of the public is at a loss, if not in outright
> > > mourning, and media as well ("black day for Sweden"). Huge spontaneous
> > > demonstrations against racism have been held in several Swedish cities
> > > today and most national newspapers yesterday appealed to voters not to
> > > give their vote to racism. Unlike other, or at least most other,
> > > European parties of similar kind, this one actually has direct Nazi
> > > roots. For instance, the current leader for years had to urge party
> > > members not to wear Nazi uniforms at party meetings! (Only one
> > > example, there are many many others, I chose this because it is
> > > telling, but very much more could be said of this party.)

> > > If you have the time and inclination, please have a look at the chart.
> > > Final votes are counted Wednesday, and the sitting PM has until the
> > > fifth (or sixth) of October to negotiate a new government, and in
> > > principle there could also be a stall, forcing a new election, though
> > > most hope that will not happen.





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