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Motorcycle Wrecks Spike
"don (Calgary)"
04.09.2010 - 01:59
04.09.2010 - 01:59
Well that was the head line for an article on page two of today's
newspaper.
Apparently Stars (air ambulance) have responded to nearly three times
as many motorcycle crashes in the Calgary area this summer compared to
last. They responded to 20 crashes in June and July compared to 8
during the same period last year. They were dispatched to 40 but
stood down before they got to about half of the calls.
The spike is that, just a spike. There's not enough info there to
draw any conclusions. While the article noted comparative statistics
between 09 and 10, the message delivered was for motorcyclists to be
careful. Common causes of accidents were mentioned. The usual stuff,
speed and following too close headed the list. A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
Not caring to get involved in a long drawn out discussion debating the
details or statistics used in this article, I would like to echo the
message, be careful. It's a long weekend and a lot of us will be
heading out on the road. A gentle reminder to keep your eyes open is
never a bad thing.
Most of us know the risks associated with riding and I'd like to think
we all take care to mitigate those risks. Don't let your guard down
and enjoy the ride.
newspaper.
Apparently Stars (air ambulance) have responded to nearly three times
as many motorcycle crashes in the Calgary area this summer compared to
last. They responded to 20 crashes in June and July compared to 8
during the same period last year. They were dispatched to 40 but
stood down before they got to about half of the calls.
The spike is that, just a spike. There's not enough info there to
draw any conclusions. While the article noted comparative statistics
between 09 and 10, the message delivered was for motorcyclists to be
careful. Common causes of accidents were mentioned. The usual stuff,
speed and following too close headed the list. A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
Not caring to get involved in a long drawn out discussion debating the
details or statistics used in this article, I would like to echo the
message, be careful. It's a long weekend and a lot of us will be
heading out on the road. A gentle reminder to keep your eyes open is
never a bad thing.
Most of us know the risks associated with riding and I'd like to think
we all take care to mitigate those risks. Don't let your guard down
and enjoy the ride.
BrianNZ
04.09.2010 - 03:05
04.09.2010 - 03:05
don (Calgary) wrote:
Well that was the head line for an article on page two of today's
newspaper.
Apparently Stars (air ambulance) have responded to nearly three times
as many motorcycle crashes in the Calgary area this summer compared to
last. They responded to 20 crashes in June and July compared to 8
during the same period last year. They were dispatched to 40 but
stood down before they got to about half of the calls.
The spike is that, just a spike. There's not enough info there to
draw any conclusions. While the article noted comparative statistics
between 09 and 10, the message delivered was for motorcyclists to be
careful. Common causes of accidents were mentioned. The usual stuff,
speed and following too close headed the list. A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
Not caring to get involved in a long drawn out discussion debating the
details or statistics used in this article, I would like to echo the
message, be careful. It's a long weekend and a lot of us will be
heading out on the road. A gentle reminder to keep your eyes open is
never a bad thing.
Most of us know the risks associated with riding and I'd like to think
we all take care to mitigate those risks. Don't let your guard down
and enjoy the ride.
Maybe there are more motorcycles on the road this year.? That 62% death
rate might just be the ones the helicopter attends, rather than all
motorcycle crashes.
Well that was the head line for an article on page two of today's
newspaper.
Apparently Stars (air ambulance) have responded to nearly three times
as many motorcycle crashes in the Calgary area this summer compared to
last. They responded to 20 crashes in June and July compared to 8
during the same period last year. They were dispatched to 40 but
stood down before they got to about half of the calls.
The spike is that, just a spike. There's not enough info there to
draw any conclusions. While the article noted comparative statistics
between 09 and 10, the message delivered was for motorcyclists to be
careful. Common causes of accidents were mentioned. The usual stuff,
speed and following too close headed the list. A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
Not caring to get involved in a long drawn out discussion debating the
details or statistics used in this article, I would like to echo the
message, be careful. It's a long weekend and a lot of us will be
heading out on the road. A gentle reminder to keep your eyes open is
never a bad thing.
Most of us know the risks associated with riding and I'd like to think
we all take care to mitigate those risks. Don't let your guard down
and enjoy the ride.
Maybe there are more motorcycles on the road this year.? That 62% death
rate might just be the ones the helicopter attends, rather than all
motorcycle crashes.
"don (Calgary)"
04.09.2010 - 03:31
04.09.2010 - 03:31
On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:05:35 +1200, BrianNZ <email@anonym; wrote:
don (Calgary) wrote:
Well that was the head line for an article on page two of today's
newspaper.
Apparently Stars (air ambulance) have responded to nearly three times
as many motorcycle crashes in the Calgary area this summer compared to
last. They responded to 20 crashes in June and July compared to 8
during the same period last year. They were dispatched to 40 but
stood down before they got to about half of the calls.
The spike is that, just a spike. There's not enough info there to
draw any conclusions. While the article noted comparative statistics
between 09 and 10, the message delivered was for motorcyclists to be
careful. Common causes of accidents were mentioned. The usual stuff,
speed and following too close headed the list. A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
Not caring to get involved in a long drawn out discussion debating the
details or statistics used in this article, I would like to echo the
message, be careful. It's a long weekend and a lot of us will be
heading out on the road. A gentle reminder to keep your eyes open is
never a bad thing.
Most of us know the risks associated with riding and I'd like to think
we all take care to mitigate those risks. Don't let your guard down
and enjoy the ride.
Maybe there are more motorcycles on the road this year.? That 62% death
rate might just be the ones the helicopter attends, rather than all
motorcycle crashes.
Like I said I wouldn't try to draw any conclusions from the numbers
quoted. The message was just to stay alert and stay safe.
don (Calgary) wrote:
Well that was the head line for an article on page two of today's
newspaper.
Apparently Stars (air ambulance) have responded to nearly three times
as many motorcycle crashes in the Calgary area this summer compared to
last. They responded to 20 crashes in June and July compared to 8
during the same period last year. They were dispatched to 40 but
stood down before they got to about half of the calls.
The spike is that, just a spike. There's not enough info there to
draw any conclusions. While the article noted comparative statistics
between 09 and 10, the message delivered was for motorcyclists to be
careful. Common causes of accidents were mentioned. The usual stuff,
speed and following too close headed the list. A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
Not caring to get involved in a long drawn out discussion debating the
details or statistics used in this article, I would like to echo the
message, be careful. It's a long weekend and a lot of us will be
heading out on the road. A gentle reminder to keep your eyes open is
never a bad thing.
Most of us know the risks associated with riding and I'd like to think
we all take care to mitigate those risks. Don't let your guard down
and enjoy the ride.
Maybe there are more motorcycles on the road this year.? That 62% death
rate might just be the ones the helicopter attends, rather than all
motorcycle crashes.
Like I said I wouldn't try to draw any conclusions from the numbers
quoted. The message was just to stay alert and stay safe.
totallydeadmailbox
04.09.2010 - 09:17
04.09.2010 - 09:17
BrianNZ <email@anonym; wrote:
Maybe there are more motorcycles on the road this year.? That 62% death
rate might just be the ones the helicopter attends, rather than all
motorcycle crashes.
Would be my conclusion, too. The chopper would only be called out for
the biggies, same as here.
Anyone who thinks or claims that nearly two-thirds of motorcycle
'incidents' results in death is either living in a dream world or
deliberately scaremongering.
--
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Kawasaki GT550x2 Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250 Damn, up to ten bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Maybe there are more motorcycles on the road this year.? That 62% death
rate might just be the ones the helicopter attends, rather than all
motorcycle crashes.
Would be my conclusion, too. The chopper would only be called out for
the biggies, same as here.
Anyone who thinks or claims that nearly two-thirds of motorcycle
'incidents' results in death is either living in a dream world or
deliberately scaremongering.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400Fx2 Triumph Street Triple
Kawasaki GT550x2 Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250 Damn, up to ten bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Tim
04.09.2010 - 17:28
04.09.2010 - 17:28
On Sep 3, 7:590pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...@telus.net> wrote:
A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. 0That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
I would be surprised if 62% of motorcycle "incidents" even get
reported.
However, I would not be surprised if 62% of motorcycle accidents
requiring life flight transportation result in a death.
Nor would I be surprised if 62% of ALL accidents requiring life flight
transportation result in a death.
A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. 0That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
I would be surprised if 62% of motorcycle "incidents" even get
reported.
However, I would not be surprised if 62% of motorcycle accidents
requiring life flight transportation result in a death.
Nor would I be surprised if 62% of ALL accidents requiring life flight
transportation result in a death.
"don (Calgary)"
04.09.2010 - 17:59
04.09.2010 - 17:59
On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 08:28:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
<email@anonym; wrote:
On Sep 3, 7:59 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...@telus.net> wrote:
A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
I would be surprised if 62% of motorcycle "incidents" even get
reported.
However, I would not be surprised if 62% of motorcycle accidents
requiring life flight transportation result in a death.
Nor would I be surprised if 62% of ALL accidents requiring life flight
transportation result in a death.
I wouldn't disagree. The journalist was reporting stats thrown out
during the interview. None of us know the context those percentages
were meant to reflect.
I thought it was a timely reminder for riders heading out on the road,
during the long weekend, to ride safely. What we do know, at least
around here, there is a spike in accidents and fatal accidents during
long weekends and motorcyclists tend to pay dearly when they are
involved. That was the focus of the article.
A very good friend of mine just recently hit a deer while riding out
in your neck of the woods. It was somewhere in Virginia. He got beat
up very badly. Broken neck, broken collar bone, multiple broken ribs.
His wife got off much easier with only bumps, bruises and a little
road rash. Bob has spent two weeks enjoying the hospitality of your
medical system. They are flying him back to a Canadian hospital this
weekend. He is in his sixties and the recovery will be a long, arduous
and possibly painful process, but the prognosis is promising.
Occasionally we get subtle reminders we are all mortal and are all
susceptible to the dangers of the road. Bob and Carol's unfortunate
accident provided such a reminder for me.
We know and accept the risks and although I don't like to dwell on the
repercussions of motorcycle accidents, a reminder of the results,
especially for the reckless, is sometimes useful. That's why I passed
along the partial contents of this article.
<email@anonym; wrote:
On Sep 3, 7:59 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...@telus.net> wrote:
A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
I would be surprised if 62% of motorcycle "incidents" even get
reported.
However, I would not be surprised if 62% of motorcycle accidents
requiring life flight transportation result in a death.
Nor would I be surprised if 62% of ALL accidents requiring life flight
transportation result in a death.
I wouldn't disagree. The journalist was reporting stats thrown out
during the interview. None of us know the context those percentages
were meant to reflect.
I thought it was a timely reminder for riders heading out on the road,
during the long weekend, to ride safely. What we do know, at least
around here, there is a spike in accidents and fatal accidents during
long weekends and motorcyclists tend to pay dearly when they are
involved. That was the focus of the article.
A very good friend of mine just recently hit a deer while riding out
in your neck of the woods. It was somewhere in Virginia. He got beat
up very badly. Broken neck, broken collar bone, multiple broken ribs.
His wife got off much easier with only bumps, bruises and a little
road rash. Bob has spent two weeks enjoying the hospitality of your
medical system. They are flying him back to a Canadian hospital this
weekend. He is in his sixties and the recovery will be a long, arduous
and possibly painful process, but the prognosis is promising.
Occasionally we get subtle reminders we are all mortal and are all
susceptible to the dangers of the road. Bob and Carol's unfortunate
accident provided such a reminder for me.
We know and accept the risks and although I don't like to dwell on the
repercussions of motorcycle accidents, a reminder of the results,
especially for the reckless, is sometimes useful. That's why I passed
along the partial contents of this article.
BryanUT
04.09.2010 - 18:00
04.09.2010 - 18:00
On Sep 4, 9:280am, Tim <tomorrowerolsdot...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sep 3, 7:590pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...@telus.net> wrote:
> A stat I have not
> heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
> motorcycle incidents result in death. 0That was a number thrown out b=
y
> one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
I would be surprised if 62% of motorcycle "incidents" even get
reported.
However, I would not be surprised if 62% of motorcycle accidents
requiring life flight transportation result in a death.
Nor would I be surprised if 62% of ALL accidents requiring life flight
transportation result in a death.
http://www.wjhg.com/news/headlines/85584502.html?storySectionDcomments
Read the comments:
" am a flight nurse, I can speak with some knowledge base of the
topic. Medical helicopters are abused no doubt. Recent studies
(popular mechanics cited) show nearly 1/2 of patients flown to
hospitals were discharged within 24 hours. If you are within a 45
minute drive to that hospital, it actually takes LONGER to get there
via helicopter, and one could argue many of that 50% of patients that
aren't discharged within 24 hours gained nothing from the flight.
Angel, for instance... if your child stayed on that vent for 14 more
days... what would be the issue of spending and extra 20 minutes on
that vent while in an ambulance? From my experience, maybe 1 out of 10
people I fly actually needed, or were 'saved' by the helicopter
flight. It is sad, but I'll say it; I'm convinced a lot of the issue
is the local paramedic on scene didn't want to drive 2-3 hours round
trip... why do that when s/he could call for a helicopter? It's a very
very unethical thing. Bankrupting people. "
On Sep 3, 7:590pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...@telus.net> wrote:
> A stat I have not
> heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
> motorcycle incidents result in death. 0That was a number thrown out b=
y
> one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
I would be surprised if 62% of motorcycle "incidents" even get
reported.
However, I would not be surprised if 62% of motorcycle accidents
requiring life flight transportation result in a death.
Nor would I be surprised if 62% of ALL accidents requiring life flight
transportation result in a death.
http://www.wjhg.com/news/headlines/85584502.html?storySectionDcomments
Read the comments:
" am a flight nurse, I can speak with some knowledge base of the
topic. Medical helicopters are abused no doubt. Recent studies
(popular mechanics cited) show nearly 1/2 of patients flown to
hospitals were discharged within 24 hours. If you are within a 45
minute drive to that hospital, it actually takes LONGER to get there
via helicopter, and one could argue many of that 50% of patients that
aren't discharged within 24 hours gained nothing from the flight.
Angel, for instance... if your child stayed on that vent for 14 more
days... what would be the issue of spending and extra 20 minutes on
that vent while in an ambulance? From my experience, maybe 1 out of 10
people I fly actually needed, or were 'saved' by the helicopter
flight. It is sad, but I'll say it; I'm convinced a lot of the issue
is the local paramedic on scene didn't want to drive 2-3 hours round
trip... why do that when s/he could call for a helicopter? It's a very
very unethical thing. Bankrupting people. "
totallydeadmailbox
04.09.2010 - 19:05
04.09.2010 - 19:05
BryanUT <email@anonym; wrote:
On Sep 4, 9:28 am, Tim <tomorrowerolsdot...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 3, 7:59 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > A stat I have not
> > heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
> > motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
> > one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
>
> I would be surprised if 62% of motorcycle "incidents" even get
> reported.
>
> However, I would not be surprised if 62% of motorcycle accidents
> requiring life flight transportation result in a death.
>
> Nor would I be surprised if 62% of ALL accidents requiring life flight
> transportation result in a death.
http://www.wjhg.com/news/headlines/85584502.html?storySectionomments
Read the comments:
" am a flight nurse, I can speak with some knowledge base of the
topic. Medical helicopters are abused no doubt. Recent studies
(popular mechanics cited) show nearly 1/2 of patients flown to
hospitals were discharged within 24 hours. If you are within a 45
minute drive to that hospital, it actually takes LONGER to get there
via helicopter, and one could argue many of that 50% of patients that
aren't discharged within 24 hours gained nothing from the flight.
Angel, for instance... if your child stayed on that vent for 14 more
days... what would be the issue of spending and extra 20 minutes on
that vent while in an ambulance? From my experience, maybe 1 out of 10
people I fly actually needed, or were 'saved' by the helicopter
flight. It is sad, but I'll say it; I'm convinced a lot of the issue
is the local paramedic on scene didn't want to drive 2-3 hours round
trip... why do that when s/he could call for a helicopter? It's a very
very unethical thing. Bankrupting people. "
That's rather telling.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400Fx2 Triumph Street Triple
Kawasaki GT550x2 Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250 Damn, up to ten bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
On Sep 4, 9:28 am, Tim <tomorrowerolsdot...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 3, 7:59 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > A stat I have not
> > heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
> > motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
> > one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
>
> I would be surprised if 62% of motorcycle "incidents" even get
> reported.
>
> However, I would not be surprised if 62% of motorcycle accidents
> requiring life flight transportation result in a death.
>
> Nor would I be surprised if 62% of ALL accidents requiring life flight
> transportation result in a death.
http://www.wjhg.com/news/headlines/85584502.html?storySectionomments
Read the comments:
" am a flight nurse, I can speak with some knowledge base of the
topic. Medical helicopters are abused no doubt. Recent studies
(popular mechanics cited) show nearly 1/2 of patients flown to
hospitals were discharged within 24 hours. If you are within a 45
minute drive to that hospital, it actually takes LONGER to get there
via helicopter, and one could argue many of that 50% of patients that
aren't discharged within 24 hours gained nothing from the flight.
Angel, for instance... if your child stayed on that vent for 14 more
days... what would be the issue of spending and extra 20 minutes on
that vent while in an ambulance? From my experience, maybe 1 out of 10
people I fly actually needed, or were 'saved' by the helicopter
flight. It is sad, but I'll say it; I'm convinced a lot of the issue
is the local paramedic on scene didn't want to drive 2-3 hours round
trip... why do that when s/he could call for a helicopter? It's a very
very unethical thing. Bankrupting people. "
That's rather telling.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400Fx2 Triumph Street Triple
Kawasaki GT550x2 Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250 Damn, up to ten bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
"Thumper"
04.09.2010 - 20:13
04.09.2010 - 20:13
"don (Calgary)" <hd.email@anonym; wrote in message
news:email@anonym...
Well that was the head line for an article on page two of today's
newspaper.
Apparently Stars (air ambulance) have responded to nearly three times
as many motorcycle crashes in the Calgary area this summer compared to
last. They responded to 20 crashes in June and July compared to 8
during the same period last year. They were dispatched to 40 but
stood down before they got to about half of the calls.
The spike is that, just a spike. There's not enough info there to
draw any conclusions. While the article noted comparative statistics
between 09 and 10, the message delivered was for motorcyclists to be
careful. Common causes of accidents were mentioned. The usual stuff,
speed and following too close headed the list. A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
Not caring to get involved in a long drawn out discussion debating the
details or statistics used in this article, I would like to echo the
message, be careful. It's a long weekend and a lot of us will be
heading out on the road. A gentle reminder to keep your eyes open is
never a bad thing.
Most of us know the risks associated with riding and I'd like to think
we all take care to mitigate those risks. Don't let your guard down
and enjoy the ride.
The riders in LA have increased tenfold. My guess is it's due to high gas
prices and joblessness. Mostly scooters but the new riders are, almost
without exception, in shorts and tennis shoes and flip flops. So I see a
spike in riders here. Squid are squid. I saw them doing their stupid stunts
every day last week.
Thumper
totallydeadmailbox
04.09.2010 - 20:23
04.09.2010 - 20:23
The Older Gentleman <email@anonym; wrote:
Would be my conclusion, too. The chopper would only be called out for
the biggies, same as here.
Rethinking this, in the wake of Bryan's post.
In the world of privatised health care, I can easily see choppers being
scrambled all the time on the basis that "the insurance will pay".
My mistake for having a mindset conditioned to think of essential
healthcare being free for all.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400Fx2 Triumph Street Triple
Kawasaki GT550x2 Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250 Damn, up to ten bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Would be my conclusion, too. The chopper would only be called out for
the biggies, same as here.
Rethinking this, in the wake of Bryan's post.
In the world of privatised health care, I can easily see choppers being
scrambled all the time on the basis that "the insurance will pay".
My mistake for having a mindset conditioned to think of essential
healthcare being free for all.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400Fx2 Triumph Street Triple
Kawasaki GT550x2 Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250 Damn, up to ten bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
"J. Clarke"
04.09.2010 - 20:49
04.09.2010 - 20:49
On 9/4/2010 2:23 PM, The Older Gentleman wrote:
The Older Gentleman<email@anonym; wrote:
Would be my conclusion, too. The chopper would only be called out for
the biggies, same as here.
Rethinking this, in the wake of Bryan's post.
In the world of privatised health care, I can easily see choppers being
scrambled all the time on the basis that "the insurance will pay".
My mistake for having a mindset conditioned to think of essential
healthcare being free for all.
Where would that be? In the UK it's on the taxpayers' dime, which is
not the same as "free".
The Older Gentleman<email@anonym; wrote:
Would be my conclusion, too. The chopper would only be called out for
the biggies, same as here.
Rethinking this, in the wake of Bryan's post.
In the world of privatised health care, I can easily see choppers being
scrambled all the time on the basis that "the insurance will pay".
My mistake for having a mindset conditioned to think of essential
healthcare being free for all.
Where would that be? In the UK it's on the taxpayers' dime, which is
not the same as "free".
totallydeadmailbox
04.09.2010 - 21:06
04.09.2010 - 21:06
J. Clarke <jclarke.email@anonym; wrote:
On 9/4/2010 2:23 PM, The Older Gentleman wrote:
> The Older Gentleman<email@anonym; wrote:
>
>> Would be my conclusion, too. The chopper would only be called out for
>> the biggies, same as here.
>
> Rethinking this, in the wake of Bryan's post.
>
> In the world of privatised health care, I can easily see choppers being
> scrambled all the time on the basis that "the insurance will pay".
>
> My mistake for having a mindset conditioned to think of essential
> healthcare being free for all.
Where would that be? In the UK it's on the taxpayers' dime, which is
not the same as "free".
YKWIM.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400Fx2 Triumph Street Triple
Kawasaki GT550x2 Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250 Damn, up to ten bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
On 9/4/2010 2:23 PM, The Older Gentleman wrote:
> The Older Gentleman<email@anonym; wrote:
>
>> Would be my conclusion, too. The chopper would only be called out for
>> the biggies, same as here.
>
> Rethinking this, in the wake of Bryan's post.
>
> In the world of privatised health care, I can easily see choppers being
> scrambled all the time on the basis that "the insurance will pay".
>
> My mistake for having a mindset conditioned to think of essential
> healthcare being free for all.
Where would that be? In the UK it's on the taxpayers' dime, which is
not the same as "free".
YKWIM.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400Fx2 Triumph Street Triple
Kawasaki GT550x2 Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250 Damn, up to ten bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
"don (Calgary)"
04.09.2010 - 22:03
04.09.2010 - 22:03
On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 11:13:18 -0700, "Thumper" <email@anonym;
wrote:
"don (Calgary)" <hd.email@anonym; wrote in message
news:email@anonym...
Well that was the head line for an article on page two of today's
newspaper.
Apparently Stars (air ambulance) have responded to nearly three times
as many motorcycle crashes in the Calgary area this summer compared to
last. They responded to 20 crashes in June and July compared to 8
during the same period last year. They were dispatched to 40 but
stood down before they got to about half of the calls.
The spike is that, just a spike. There's not enough info there to
draw any conclusions. While the article noted comparative statistics
between 09 and 10, the message delivered was for motorcyclists to be
careful. Common causes of accidents were mentioned. The usual stuff,
speed and following too close headed the list. A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
Not caring to get involved in a long drawn out discussion debating the
details or statistics used in this article, I would like to echo the
message, be careful. It's a long weekend and a lot of us will be
heading out on the road. A gentle reminder to keep your eyes open is
never a bad thing.
Most of us know the risks associated with riding and I'd like to think
we all take care to mitigate those risks. Don't let your guard down
and enjoy the ride.
The riders in LA have increased tenfold. My guess is it's due to high gas
prices and joblessness. Mostly scooters but the new riders are, almost
without exception, in shorts and tennis shoes and flip flops. So I see a
spike in riders here. Squid are squid. I saw them doing their stupid stunts
every day last week.
Thumper
Given the casual California lifestyle you may have more squids down
there, but we have our share too. They are a comical bunch.
Without digging up a bunch of meaningless statistics I don't think we
have seen a spike in motorcycles. New sales are down across the
board, except, maybe scooters. Of course two times nothing is still
nothing. And it hasn't stopped raining around here all summer. Global
warming my ass. My sense is there are fewer motorcycles, excluding
scooters, on the road this year than last.
wrote:
"don (Calgary)" <hd.email@anonym; wrote in message
news:email@anonym...
Well that was the head line for an article on page two of today's
newspaper.
Apparently Stars (air ambulance) have responded to nearly three times
as many motorcycle crashes in the Calgary area this summer compared to
last. They responded to 20 crashes in June and July compared to 8
during the same period last year. They were dispatched to 40 but
stood down before they got to about half of the calls.
The spike is that, just a spike. There's not enough info there to
draw any conclusions. While the article noted comparative statistics
between 09 and 10, the message delivered was for motorcyclists to be
careful. Common causes of accidents were mentioned. The usual stuff,
speed and following too close headed the list. A stat I have not
heard before, and am not sure could be supported, was 62% of
motorcycle incidents result in death. That was a number thrown out by
one of the flight paramedics. That one surprised me.
Not caring to get involved in a long drawn out discussion debating the
details or statistics used in this article, I would like to echo the
message, be careful. It's a long weekend and a lot of us will be
heading out on the road. A gentle reminder to keep your eyes open is
never a bad thing.
Most of us know the risks associated with riding and I'd like to think
we all take care to mitigate those risks. Don't let your guard down
and enjoy the ride.
The riders in LA have increased tenfold. My guess is it's due to high gas
prices and joblessness. Mostly scooters but the new riders are, almost
without exception, in shorts and tennis shoes and flip flops. So I see a
spike in riders here. Squid are squid. I saw them doing their stupid stunts
every day last week.
Thumper
Given the casual California lifestyle you may have more squids down
there, but we have our share too. They are a comical bunch.
Without digging up a bunch of meaningless statistics I don't think we
have seen a spike in motorcycles. New sales are down across the
board, except, maybe scooters. Of course two times nothing is still
nothing. And it hasn't stopped raining around here all summer. Global
warming my ass. My sense is there are fewer motorcycles, excluding
scooters, on the road this year than last.
"J. Clarke"
04.09.2010 - 22:40
04.09.2010 - 22:40
On 9/4/2010 3:06 PM, The Older Gentleman wrote:
J. Clarke<jclarke.email@anonym; wrote:
On 9/4/2010 2:23 PM, The Older Gentleman wrote:
The Older Gentleman<email@anonym; wrote:
Would be my conclusion, too. The chopper would only be called out for
the biggies, same as here.
Rethinking this, in the wake of Bryan's post.
In the world of privatised health care, I can easily see choppers being
scrambled all the time on the basis that "the insurance will pay".
My mistake for having a mindset conditioned to think of essential
healthcare being free for all.
Where would that be? In the UK it's on the taxpayers' dime, which is
not the same as "free".
YKWIM.
Yep, but I couldn't resist.
On an unrelated note, I just realized that I have watched far, far too
much "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" because my first reaction to the title
of this thread was to assume that someone had run a bike over James
Marsters.
J. Clarke<jclarke.email@anonym; wrote:
On 9/4/2010 2:23 PM, The Older Gentleman wrote:
The Older Gentleman<email@anonym; wrote:
Would be my conclusion, too. The chopper would only be called out for
the biggies, same as here.
Rethinking this, in the wake of Bryan's post.
In the world of privatised health care, I can easily see choppers being
scrambled all the time on the basis that "the insurance will pay".
My mistake for having a mindset conditioned to think of essential
healthcare being free for all.
Where would that be? In the UK it's on the taxpayers' dime, which is
not the same as "free".
YKWIM.
Yep, but I couldn't resist.
On an unrelated note, I just realized that I have watched far, far too
much "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" because my first reaction to the title
of this thread was to assume that someone had run a bike over James
Marsters.
sean_q
04.09.2010 - 23:04
04.09.2010 - 23:04
don (Calgary) wrote:
Global warming my ass.
That's what the polar bear said as he was swimming an extra
hundred miles of open water to the Arctic shoreline
after the sea ice broke up early. Only the seals were happy.
SQ
Global warming my ass.
That's what the polar bear said as he was swimming an extra
hundred miles of open water to the Arctic shoreline
after the sea ice broke up early. Only the seals were happy.
SQ
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